denial science, everything to fight the clean air act, to stop the fossil fuel subsidies, to stop clean energy policies in the u.s., and that is the basis of a deadlock here in doha. so let's take it to the next question: what can be done then in washington to minimize the power of these incredibly wealthy men? >> well i mean, as you know washington is kind of -- has kind of become formalized legalized corruption. this is something that's got to start outside of washington. it already is. what we see is a groundswell of organized labor, communities of color, of environmental organizations, not just climate groups, are following the money and see that it's all leaveding to the kochs. they are not only the biggest source of financing for attacking collective bargaining rights, voter rights clean air, healthcare, but, as you know they bundled, you know, almost a billion dollars with their other conservative allies for the 2012 e elections. >> let's talk about what's going on doha as these talks wind doubt. a lot of us have been frustrated watching knowing that the united states is not leading. wh